How did you first come to SEA, and what drew you in?

My Mom was a member of the Oceanic Society and SEA was the teaching wing. I didn't really pay attention to it since I already knew how to sail. When I moved to San Francisco I stumbled upon the office at Fort Mason and went inside where I talked to Jane. She convinced me to take a refresher course and then roped me into teaching.

How has SEA changed over the years and what has stayed the same?

SEA has changed a lot over the years. When the program was based at Fort Mason and Richardson Bay, the Adult Program was thriving — a full curriculum staffed entirely by volunteers, where students could progress all the way from Dinghy 1 to Offshore Sailing. The original mission was to train Oceanic Society members to crew on sailboats taking scientists out to the Farallons. That sense of purpose ran through everything. Over time the organization evolved, the venues changed, and the volunteer base shifted — but the core idea of making sailing accessible to people who wouldn't otherwise find their way to it has never really gone away. That thread is still there.

What are some moments from decades of helping people learn to sail that you often think back on?

What I keep coming back to isn't one big moment — it's a pattern I've seen play out over and over. A new sailor comes in nervous, unsure of themselves, asking careful questions. Then somewhere out on the water something clicks. Their questions get sharper, their confidence grows, and you can see them starting to trust themselves. That transformation never gets old. After all these years it still surprises me a little every time.

What do you hope SEA continues to carry forward?

I hope SEA stays true to what it was built on — giving people access to sailing who might not have had a path to it otherwise. That was the original idea, connecting everyday people to the water, and it's still the most valuable thing SEA does. The sport can feel exclusive, but it doesn't have to be. I hope SEA keeps being the place that opens that door.